Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205

04/04/2022 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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+= SB 85 FOREST LAND USE PLANS; TIMBER SALES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 85(RES) Out of Committee
+= SB 223 CONFIDENTIALITY OF ANIMAL RECORDS TELECONFERENCED
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+= HB 148 ALASKA COORDINATE SYSTEM OF 2022 TELECONFERENCED
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-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+= HB 209 EMERGENCY FIREFIGHTERS TELECONFERENCED
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-- Invited & Public Testimony --
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                 HB 209-EMERGENCY FIREFIGHTERS                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:36:28 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR MICCICHE announced the consideration of CS FOR HOUSE                                                                 
BILL NO. 209(FIN) "An Act relating to emergency firefighters;                                                                   
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:36:50 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE MIKE CRONK, Alaska State Legislature, Juneau,                                                                    
Alaska, sponsor of HB 209, read the following sponsor statement                                                                 
into the record:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     HB 209  authorizes the  Commissioner of  the Department                                                                    
     of  Natural  Resources  to hire  emergency  firefighter                                                                    
     personnel using general fund appropriations.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     By  amending  AS 41.15.030  (b),  allowing  the use  of                                                                    
     general funds to pay EFF  personnel, they would be able                                                                    
     to  perform  nonemergency  work, such  hazardous  fuels                                                                    
     reduction,  fuel  break development,  fire  prevention,                                                                    
     habitat restoration or  improvement activities in fire-                                                                    
     prone areas.  In addition, this would  provide economic                                                                    
     opportunities for Alaskans  and empower rural Alaskans,                                                                    
     for the  department to  responsibly manage  the state's                                                                    
     natural  resources, and  to  enhance  public safety  to                                                                    
     protect and save human lives.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Such  nonemergency work  could  reduce the  likelihood,                                                                    
     intensity, and damage of  wildland fires near populated                                                                    
     areas  and could  bring significant  reductions in  the                                                                    
     state's costs  to fight future fires.  By employing EFF                                                                    
     during non-emergency  would provide  training, fitness,                                                                    
     and  readiness  for when  a  wildfire  does occur.  The                                                                    
     number  of  EFF personnel  that  may  be interested  in                                                                    
     applying for a permanent  DNR job would increase, which                                                                    
     would help with recruitment.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Based   on  the   legislative   history,  amending   AS                                                                    
     41.15.030(b)'s last  sentence does not appear  to yield                                                                    
     and  constitutional or  legal  problems.  In 1996,  the                                                                    
     legislature   added  the   last  sentence   to  address                                                                    
     concerns  of conflict  with the  Alaska Personnel  Act;                                                                    
     specifically, that  short term  non-permanent employees                                                                    
     would  become full  time employees.  However, in  2000,                                                                    
     the legislature amended the APA  to allow for long term                                                                    
     nonpermanent  employees.  Due  to that  amendment,  the                                                                    
     apparent concerns expressed by  the legislature in 1996                                                                    
     warranting  the  inclusion  of  the  last  sentence  no                                                                    
     longer exists.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR MICCICHE turned to invited testimony on HB 209.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:39:20 PM                                                                                                                    
NORM  MACDONALD,   Chief  of  Fire  and   Aviation,  Division  of                                                               
Forestry, Department of Natural  Resources (DNR), Palmer, Alaska,                                                               
testified  by invitation  in support  of HB  209. He  stated that                                                               
this bill manifests Alaska's need  to build firefighting capacity                                                               
as the challenge  of wildland fires increase. The  bill will help                                                               
the division  fulfill its primary mission  of protecting Alaskans                                                               
from  wildland  fires  and   reducing  the  catastrophic  impacts                                                               
through  hazardous fuels  mitigations. HB  209 will  also provide                                                               
jobs and training for rural  Alaskans throughout fire-prone areas                                                               
of the state.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACDONALD agreed  with the sponsor that  removing the funding                                                               
impediment  in  AS  41.15.030  would allow  DNR  to  use  already                                                               
allocated general  funds to pay  emergency firefighters  for non-                                                               
emergency  fire  prevention  work  during  periods  of  low  fire                                                               
activity.  This will  enable nonemergency  fire prevention  work,                                                               
provide a  training ground  for EFF  employees to  learn valuable                                                               
crossover  firefighting   skills,  and  provide   consistent  and                                                               
desirable job  opportunities for rural Alaskans.  Leveraging this                                                               
workforce could potentially  save tens of millions  of dollars in                                                               
future fire suppression costs.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MACDONALD highlighted  that while  this bill  allows general                                                               
funds to  be used  for EFF and  nonemergency tasks,  the division                                                               
would  only use  funds that  have already  been appropriated  for                                                               
fuel reduction and prevention work,  which is why the fiscal note                                                               
is zero.  He also noted that  the division has and  will continue                                                               
to receive federal  funds for fuels mitigation that  will be used                                                               
for  fire  suppression  and fire  prevention  activities  by  EFF                                                               
crews.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MACDONALD  emphasized  that  DOF  currently  does  not  have                                                               
sufficient  personnel  to staff  for  both  fire suppression  and                                                               
fuels reduction.  The lack of  consistent work for the  EFF crews                                                               
has resulted in  a drastic decline in the number  of EFF crews in                                                               
the last  10 years and  the division has  had to import  Lower 48                                                               
crews, which is  expensive and makes a  quick, aggressive initial                                                               
attack impossible. This increases the  overall cost to respond to                                                               
wildland fires.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACDONALD stated  that HB 209 will help  the division rebuild                                                               
its  EFF   fire  crews  to   create  a   self-sufficient  Alaskan                                                               
firefighting  force,   while  reducing   costs.  The   bill  also                                                               
dovetails with  the division's request  in the  governor's budget                                                               
to  reinstate a  wildland fire  academy. The  intent is  to build                                                               
back   Alaska's   wildland   firefighting   crews   by   training                                                               
firefighters  in rural  communities. Providing  secure employment                                                               
strengthens local economies and enhances public safety.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:43:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  if the  state loans  its firefighters  to                                                               
Lower  48 states  when the  fire danger  in Alaska  is relatively                                                               
low.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACDONALD  confirmed that the  division shares  its resources                                                               
with Lower  48 states when the  fire season is over  and the fire                                                               
indices are low.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS asked  for confirmation that it  doesn't create a                                                               
conflict to loan crews.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MACDONALD confirmed that it  does not create a conflict. Life                                                               
and  safety are  priorities so  when  Lower 48  states have  fire                                                               
seasons  similar to  the  last several,  the  division will  send                                                               
support  with  every  available resource,  including  EFF  crews.                                                               
That's been  common practice for the  last 40 years and  will not                                                               
stop.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:45:07 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR  MICCICHE opened public  testimony on HB  209; finding                                                               
none, he closed public testimony.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR MICCICHE  found no further discussion  and solicited a                                                               
motion.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:45:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS moved to report the CS for HB 209(FIN), work                                                                    
order 32-LS0929\B from committee with individual recommendations                                                                
and attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR MICCICHE found no objection, and CSHB 209(FIN) was                                                                   
reported from the Senate Resources Standing Committee.                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 85 Amendment 1 A.1.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 85
SB 85 Amendment 2 A.2.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 85
B.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 223
SB223 Explanation of Changes Ver. A to B. 3.31.2022.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 223
SB223 Sectional Version B 3.31.2022.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 223
HB 148 Additional Info - APDC Position Statement_Final_R2.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 148
HB 148 Letter of Support - ASPLS 4.8.21.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 148
HB 148 Sectional Analysis - 4.6.21.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 148
HB 148 Sponsor Statement - 4.6.21.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 148
HB0148-2-2-021822-DNR-N.PDF SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 148
CSHB 209 - Sponsor Statement 03.23.22.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 209
CSHB 209 Sectional Analysis version B 03.15.2022.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 209
HB209-Fiscal Note-DNR-DOF-2-11-22.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 209
DNR Letter of Support - Comm. Feige.pdf SRES 4/4/2022 3:30:00 PM
HB 209